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Kids tested material from Roswell UFO debris, claims witness

In an interview on YouTube posted by a UFO researcher, a woman claims to have obtained material from the famous alleged crash of an extraterrestrial spacecraft near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. She says she was a child at the time, and she and her friend tested the material before having to return it.

The video was posted on YouTube by UFO researcher Mary Joyce, who runs a website called Sky Ships over Cashiers. Via email, Joyce wrote me that she usually transcribes alleged witness testimony and posts it as a story. However, she felt the witness, who chose to remain anonymous, was so compelling in her retelling that she had to let readers experience her words for themselves.

“The woman we call ‘Jill’ painted such great word pictures, and there was such feeling in the way she told her story that written words couldn’t capture it,” explained Joyce. “So we set up our own YouTube channel just so we could posted it as a video.”

Indeed, this video is the only video on their YouTube channel, and Joyce is right. The way Jill articulates her story makes for a compelling and interesting listen. So much so, we wanted to share the story with our readers as well.

Field where the Roswell debris is said to have been found. (Credit: OpenMinds.tv)
Field where the Roswell debris is said to have been found. (Credit: OpenMinds.tv)

Joyce says she had known Jill for years before Jill shared this story with her, and several years have passed since then, before Jill would allow Joyce to share it. Jill and Joyce seem to assume the metal comes from the Roswell incident, and the descriptions given by Jill in the interview are similar to those described by witnesses who allege to have handle debris from the object that crashed in Roswell in 1947.

In the interview (heard above), Jill says, in 1957 she was about 10 years old, and her father was a pilot with the U.S. Air Force. Jill says her father was off on duty all over the world, but was stationed at Wright-Patterson Air Force base.

Her father was friends with the father of a boy named John, whom Jill describes as “kind of like my boyfriend.” John’s father was a Colonel, and worked out of a building on the outskirts of the base. John had told Jill that if you look into the building his father works in, you would not see anything because his office is underground. John said his father had to take an elevator down to his office.

Jill described the Colonel as a stoic individual. He was very serious, and not kid-friendly, like her father. However, she did respect the man very much.

One day, John told Jill he had a surprise for her and showed her a strange metal that Jill remembered to be about 8 inches by 11 inches, similar to a sheet of paper. She said it looked like aluminum, but it was heavier. John told her to stand back. He then wadded up the sheet of metal and threw it at Jill. Before the metal could reach her, it transformed back into a flat sheet.

This feature is similar to a property of the metal described by others who say they handled the Roswell debris. In particular, Dr. Jesse Marcel, Jr., who, as a child, handled debris his father alleges to have collected from the Roswell crash site. His father was an Air Force intelligence officer stationed at the Roswell Army Air Field in July of 1947.

Jesse Marcel Jr. at the Roswell debris field. (Credit: OpenMinds.tv)
Jesse Marcel Jr. at the Roswell debris field. (Credit: OpenMinds.tv)

Marcel Jr. says the metal his father let him play with also would return to its original form when crushed. Marcel is considered one of the most credible sources when it comes to the material. He also had a military background as a flight surgeon.

Jill says John also told her to grab a pair of scissors and try to cut the metal, but they were not able to cut it. Over the next week, the children experimented with testing the metal. They tried to burn it, but it would not get damaged and would remain at room temperature.

The children were careful to keep the metal secret, because John knew he was not supposed to have it.

Even so, soon after, when John saw Jill playing with Silly Puddy, he was so fascinated by the Silly Puddy he offered to trade Jill the mystery metal for the Silly Puddy. After some consideration, Jill accepted. That night, while riding her bike with the metal in her bicycle basket, Jill noticed the metal reacted strangely when light hit it.

(Credit: Sky Ships over Cashiers/YouTube)
(Credit: Sky Ships over Cashiers/YouTube)

However, she was not able to experiment with this new found property. John and his father came to her home and the Colonel asked for the material back. Jill says she could see John was shaken and knew he was in trouble.

The Colonel told Jill she never saw or had the material, and not to tell anyone about it.

“Do you know what cold happen to me if anyone found out you had this?,” he asked her.

He said he could lose his job, and if he did it would be on her.

“I was terrified, of the man, so of course I was not going to say anything,” Jill explained. ” And for many years I didn’t.”

It was a mix of fear and respect that kept Jill silent, and she believed if she had told anyone, John’s father would have lost his job. So she kept the secret for decades, until now.

“Naturally, I asked her why she decided to do the interview,” Joyce wrote me in her email. “She just said, it was time because she was 69-years-old and the people who would be hurt by telling the story were no longer living.  She also had to wrestle with her conscience because she had made a solemn promise and she always keeps her promises.”

Joyce believes Jill’s story. She says, “I should add that Jill is a professional who is well known and well respected in the county where we live.”

According to Joyce, she met Jill in 1998, and although Joyce has an interest in UFOs, Jill did not tell her the story about the metal until 2008.

Joyce said, “Of course I thought what a great story this would make and asked her if I could interview her about it.  Her answer was ‘Well, I’ll have to think about that.’ Periodically, I’d ask her again and always got that same answer.  Then after eight years, she agreed to be interviewed, but I had to promise to always keep her identity a secret. As hard as it is to believe, she hasn’t even told her husband and son.”

But now you know. Listen to the audio in the YouTube video at the top of this story. Hearing the story in Jill’s words is important. Once you have heard Jill’s story, let us know what you think in the comments below.

For more about Mary Joyce, visit www.skyshipsovercashiers.com.

Alejandro Rojas

Alejandro Rojas is a radio host for Open Minds Radio, editor and contributing writer for Open Minds magazine as well as OpenMinds.tv. For several years Alejandro was the official spokesperson for the Mutual UFO Network as the Director of Public Education. As a UFO/Paranormal researcher and journalist, Alejandro has spent many hours in the field investigating phenomena up close and personal. Alejandro has been interviewed by media organizations around the world, including the largest cable and network news agencies with several appearances on Coast to Coast AM.

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  1. if the metal could not be cut or burnt or in anyway damaged. then tell me how did the space craft come apart into wreckage and into thousands of pieces. Hmmmmm..

  2. once again I ask, how can a vehicle be torn apart and destroyed when the supposed wreckage pieces cannot be cut, burnt, bent or damaged in any way. It would stand to reasoning that the vehicle should and would remain intact without any damage and not even show a dent or scratch…. Right

  3. I don’t believe it. We’re to believe some Colonel had this at home letting his kid play with it, REALLY. The most important discovery in mankind history and he took it home with him and let his kid play with. This is nothing like the Jess Marcel Jr. incident. First off when his father showed him the material he didn’t know what it was and it wasn’t top secret at the time. Her story is 10 yrs later and the stuff is laying around waiting for anyone to pick up. I’m ashamed of Open Minds even repeating this story without collaborating the facts which can’t be done because in the end it’s just another “anonymous” witness which speaks highly of the witness since the so called “Colonel” is long dead and no reason not to give her name and her friend Johns name which tell me it’s all BS. How many time these people come crawling out from under a rock pretending to be something but in the end they!!!

  4. In 1972 my step grandfather told me and my uncle that when he was in the army in mm they had to pick up debris I’n a field
    He later said that night when they were all hanging out drinking and talking that what they were picking up was the debris from a flying saucer.
    They all laughed and kept drinking not thinlimg much about it.
    Decades later all this Roswell stuff started popping up in the paper and radio.
    I always thought he was full of it.

  5. I was a prison psychologist for many years. I’ve heard many stories from many persons with various pathologies. After listening to this, I have several issues with its veracity. Before posting this story I would ask that Openminds have this person interviewed by a forensic psychologist and or a at least undergo a polygraph. That would cost about $400.00
    Ufolgy will never be taken seriously if more incidents such as the Roswell slides are given air time. It muddies the water of serious investigation in trade for some commercial ad time.
    This story has several problems and Openminds should be more discriminating.
    Dr. M. A. De Francis

  6. coop – I have often wondered the same thing about how the scattered wreckage came about in regards to the Roswell incident, but to ignore all other evidence because of an unknown isn’t just ignorant its irresponsible. Throw your baby out with its bath water much?? smh …Besides no one ever makes mention of this being part of wreckage nor is there detail what so ever as to where it came from, besides from the boys father, so it seems to me that you’re filling in the gaps quite nicely to confirm your bias…again very irresponsible! Oh and just one more thing to point out…these kids were using scissors, heat (from a standard 1957 oven), fire, hammers and things of this nature to try to affect this material to no avail. Sooo…sounds pretty indestructible to me…OH WAIT…how about high pressure, lasers, explosives or chemical reactions that a young child MIGHT NOT have access to in his basement…or even a nuclear reaction…hmmmm…those kids probably didn’t have access to such powerful means huh?? Sooo…the scissors, heat, hammers and other crude means of destruction was PLENTY for you to call BS huh?? WOW SMFH!!

    paul – Have you never brought anything home from work?? I also don’t believe that:

    a) It was ever mentioned that the dad GAVE the boy this material to play with?
    b) It was ever mentioned that this material was TOP SECRET?
    c) It would be wise to disclose their names so that IDIOTS LIKE YOU know EXACTLY who it is that they should attack and ridicule…LIKE YOU’RE DOING WITHOUT KNOWING their names.

    Talk about not collaborating the facts…how about YOU FIRST?!?! SMFH

    Dr. – Before commenting I think its only fair that I give you the opportunity to express ALL of your MANY problems. But I WILL SAY that there was NEVER a mention, OR CONNECTION made, with Roswell so as far as being a psychologist goes…you don’t listen very well do you?!? SMH

    Skeptic trolls bordering on debunkers yet with little more to debunk her history than suggesting that she might be pathological without ANY cues of such a thing quoted directly from her testimony. AND THAT coming from a so called DOCTOR?!? SMFH

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